Call of Duty 6

[KylerAdams]

CoD6 isn't WWII. CoD5 is, and I hate that one with a passion. CoD1 was probably the best WWII game of the series.

As for the weapons in RCTW? Not really. Check out the 1911.

[waqwarrior]

My friend just got CoD1 the other day. I'm not even gonna try running it on my computer, but I'll get it from him when I get my new one so I have a real opinion of it, not some prejudgmental thought.

[D3ads]

COD1? That's ooooold, unless your machine is a Pentium I, you'll run it without any problems.

Back on topic;

So by now you've more than likely heard that IW have dropped dedicated servers from the PC version, way to shoot themselves in the foot, you think they probably couldn't shoot themselves in the foot anymore right? Wrong, looks like they've gone and shot their whole damn leg off;


****MASSIVE SPOILERS AHEAD, THIS IS YOUR ONLY WARNING****









In one of the in-game sequences you play as one of the terrorists walking through a Russian airport and mowing down unarmed civilians in cold blood.

Link to article: http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/61038

The video's all over the place, so if it's been taken down just search the net.

I've seen the footage and I'll sum up my thoughts in one word;

No.

To elaborate;

This is not a good thing at all, I couldn't honestly believe that one minute you walk into an airport with near enough 20 civilians at the gates and then you just gun them down... wtf? Before anyone starts going "Oh yeah, this is no different from GTA" or whatever, well yes actually it is. In the GTA games, you can choose to goto an airport and kill innocent civilians with a machinegun but you don't have to, there's no objective for you to do that. In this, your objective is clearly to mow down civilians, I felt a little sick watching it tbh, the constant screams in the background make for a harrowing setup.

There's being a bit daring and then there's this... playing as a soldier in a war, you're pitted against enemies that would pose a threat and not to mention a challenge. This is pointless, you're firing at and raining grenades on people who cannot possibly defend themselves, there's no way you can fail to do this level, just let rip with guns and kill all the civilians in sight. Yeah you've got to fight the Spetsnaz outside (it's a Russian airport), but that's irrelevant. Games are supposed to be challenging, where's the challenge here? Games are supposed to be fun, where's the fun here? It's one thing to be a bit daring and contraversial, I respect IW for trying to do something different but this a bit much imho, there's a moral highground where the line should not be crossed and this steps over that.

My 2 $.

[Sergeant Kelly]

You better be able to teamkill in that mission. I'm not going to gun down any civillians.

[Nige111]

Personally, I don't give two shits about gunning down civillians or not, it's a fucking game, get over it.

[KylerAdams]

Personally, I don't give two shits about gunning down civillians or not, it's a fucking game, get over it.

This this this this!

You should be able to differentiate between IRL-ness and games-ness. If not, well... games may not be your thing. Try joining the Army, I hear the gfx are really really realistic.

[waqwarrior]

Try joining the Army, I hear the gfx are really really realistic.

Well, the other day, I went outside. The graphics are not that good. My cousin tells me the Army is similar.

[Sergeant Kelly]

You might not give a shit about gunning down civies, but it certainly isn't as fun. (Unless you're a sadistic fuck or something.)

Anyway, I think it's in there expressly for that purpose. I'm assuming they want the player to give some shits about the atrocities the terrorists are committing.

[Flowers Of Naivety]

LOL MW2 getting a 3rd person mode.

[waqwarrior]

COD1? That's ooooold, unless your machine is a Pentium I, you'll run it without any problems.

I has a Pentium III @ 866 MHz

Well, I could run COD1, but I like to run things at higher graphics settings if the games are older. i.e. Half-Life, RTCW...
and it lags quite a bit on the medium settings on my friend's low end P4 with the same graphics card as me (nvidia geforce 2 gts 32 mb)

[Aydin]

You might not give a shit about gunning down civies, but it certainly isn't as fun. (Unless you're a sadistic fuck or something.)

Anyway, I think it's in there expressly for that purpose. I'm assuming they want the player to give some shits about the atrocities the terrorists are committing.

Isnt fun, hell yes its fucking fun, Im no sadist but occasionally who doesnt wanna waste a crowd of people and watch it disperse everywhere. Some postal carnage

[KylerAdams]

It's part of the human instinct: everybody gets the occasional urge and wish to spontaneously gun down people. I'm not particularly violent IRL and I love gunning down random people in Saints Row 2.

/pyschotic

[D3ads]

I can see barely any of you actually read what I put, try again... is gunning down unarmed civilians fun? I mean really? I'll admit to playing GTA games and running over, gunning down and blowing up civilians but it's not necessary, you don't have to do it and when you do the way it's done is cartoony rather than gritty, never played Saints Row but from the footage I've seen it's the same deal. When you play this, it's what you're supposed to do. To me not only is it disturbing it's also.. boring. Run through to hallway, kill everyone unarmed person in the room, move on, do it again. Someone bloodied, trying to carry their wounded companion to safety? Gun them down! Hell, better yet, feed them a load of M203 grenades, jizzing with excitement as the high pitched screams of people with no chance of survival echo throughout... yeaaaaah!

*Yawn*

Seriously, it's not good.. the media will be all over this but for once, there's good reason... This kind of thing happened in Mumbai this year, how are the victims of that going to feel about this? There's "it's only a game" and then there's stepping over the line. Before anyone says well that was real and this is supposed to realistic... roflz... COD games are about as realistic as Tetris.

Anyway, more info regarding this section;

Activision statement:

"The scene establishes the depth of evil and the cold-bloodedness of a rogue Russian villain and his unit. By establishing that evil, it adds to the urgency of the player's mission to stop them."

"Players have the option of skipping over the scene. At the beginning of the game, there are two 'checkpoints' where the player is advised that some people may find an upcoming segment disturbing. These checkpoints can't be disabled."

"Modern Warfare 2 is a fantasy action game designed for intense, realistic gameplay that mirrors real life conflicts, much like epic, action movies. It is appropriately rated 18 for violent scenes, which means it is intended for those who are 18 and older." (The BBFC 18 rating in the UK is the equivalent of M for Mature in the US.)

"The leaked footage was taken from a copy of game that was obtained illegally and is not representative of the overall gameplay experience in Modern Warfare 2. "

"Infinity Ward's Modern Warfare 2 features a deep and gripping storyline in which players face off against a terrorist threat dedicated to bringing the world to the brink of collapse. The game includes a plot involving a mission carried out by a Russian villain who wants to trigger a global war. In order to defeat him, the player infiltrates his inner circle. The scene is designed to evoke the atrocities of terrorism. "

"At the beginning of the game, players encounter a mandatory 'checkpoint' in which they are warned that an upcoming segment may contain disturbing elements and they can choose not to engage in the gameplay that involves this scene. Consistent with its content, the game has been given an "M" for Mature by the Entertainment Software Ratings Board. The rating is prominently displayed on the front and back of the packaging, as well as in all advertising."

http://au.gamespot.com/news/6238205.html

I think if this sort of scene were to be carried out in say Arma II then it would work a lot better, considering how much that title relies on realism (and at one point in the game Civilians are executed and hung by terrorist militia and mass graves are found). I just don't think it fits in here nor is there any need for it in general, it would be better to make it a first person cutscene where the player doesn't control what happens. In respect to IW, we'll have to play the game to see what the context this appears in. I was thinking again about it last night, considering IW's reputation and cult following I doubt they would risk that by doing something so radical without there being a good reason for it. In addition, being able to skip the scene means that those that would feel wrong playing it can just simply look over it. I'll admit like many of you, I'll play the scene to see what happens if I don't open fire or shoot my "comrades".

[KylerAdams]

Honestly this seems to be a complete "oh noes peeple r dying in airportz dis r bad" with people getting their panties in a wad.

Not saying your opinion is "wrong", D3, just not caring about it. The point of this section is "establish faction X is bad". Does it do that? Yes. Keep it in.

Aswell, there were plenty of people complaining about how MW1 was just NATO/SAS/American missions with no choice to play the opposing forces, the 'bad' guys, which was true. There was the section in the beginning where the president gets executed, but that's not really "OpFor". This game does that.

LOL MW2 getting a 3rd person mode.

..wait, what?

Personally I don't care much for this whole boycott MW2 thing because I will be getting it for the Xbox 360. It better have the damn MP44 though.

A really late reply, I know, but.....

This attitude is why the consumers get fucked over.

The devs fuck over one platform, and all the other platforms laugh and go "hahaha u suxxorz" and buy the game.

If we got everybody to boycott a game, on all platforms, 360, PC, PS3, Wii, whatever, something might change.

[Sergeant Kelly]

A really late reply, I know, but.....

This attitude is why the consumers get fucked over.

The devs fuck over one platform, and all the other platforms laugh and go "hahaha u suxxorz" and buy the game.

If we got everybody to boycott a game, on all platforms, 360, PC, PS3, Wii, whatever, something might change.

As far as I'm concerned, you guys aren't getting fucked over. You're going to get the same experience as a console user. That's the same as saying all the consoles have been screwed from the start, and the PC users have been the ones going "hahaha u suxxorz". I mean, they never even had mouse aiming or dedicated servers to begin with.