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Re: Post joo car!
« Reply #30 on: June 06, 2008, 07:37:19 PM »

Well diesel prices here are really having a knock on effect, we have the second most expensive diesel in europe and apparently the 9th highest unleaded, being all transport for longhaul road is diesel its having a huge affect on everything
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Re: Post joo car!
« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2008, 08:25:37 AM »

Moar car pix.





1998 Pontiac Grand Am GT (as the picture indicates)

Practically stole it from my cousin ($2000 US)

23 MPG, works for me.
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Re: Post joo car!
« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2008, 09:03:33 AM »

Ooooh H4WK! Where have you been? Busy with 4.0?
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Re: Post joo car!
« Reply #33 on: June 13, 2008, 04:46:25 AM »

Ooooh H4WK! Where have you been? Busy with 4.0?

College & work mostly, but 4.0 has kept me on my toes. I check up here from time to time. I'm trying to post more frequently.
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Re: Post joo car!
« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2008, 06:36:18 AM »

I got no pics and really wouldn't want to post any. I have a Renault 11 GTL that I kept running through major overhauls in the past years.
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Re: Post joo car!
« Reply #35 on: June 18, 2008, 12:49:31 AM »

Been a while since I updated my car project. Ordered some shit off andysautosport. Some floor mats, gas/brake petal overlays (), some nifty neons (for shits and giggles), and a hood bug-deflector and side window deflectors both in smoke black. Me thinks it will look good once I get everything installed.

Still plan to get a nice small spoilers for the back. Something like this: http://www.andysautosport.com/chevrolet/1997_1999_lumina/exterior/wings/paintable_wings/good_hood/
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Re: Post joo car!
« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2008, 01:08:22 AM »

1993 Cadillac Sedan DeVille

69,707 miles
4.9 L V8
200 Horse
275 TQ
premium burner

It's a damn fine ride, bought it last year for 5 Gs. I suppose it would have cost something like 40 thou back in 93.




The other car is an 03 GT Mustang convertible, but I don't have pics right now.
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Re: Post joo car!
« Reply #37 on: July 01, 2008, 05:20:01 PM »

Here's the thing that I don't get about American cars and I'm going to use yours as an example, CarreraGT. (Nothing personal, it's just the ideal example.)

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4.9 L V8
200 Horse
How is it possible to get so little power from so much displacement ? It's like an achievement in it's self.

My Focus has a 1.8 liter engine yet provides 113BHP. This isn't a turbo charged race engine, it's a standard every day engine. Look at the ratio though, why are American engines so poor ?

Displacement:Power ratios:
Cadillac: 1:40.8
Focus: 1:62.8
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Re: Post joo car!
« Reply #38 on: July 04, 2008, 12:44:33 AM »

Ever heard the phrase HP sells cars, but torque wins races? The car can go fast. 0 to 60 in 7 seconds is damn good for a 2 ton full size sedan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_V8_engine#L26_4.9

In the 1/4 mile it's only a second slower than the Northstar V8, which has 75 more HP.

Some numbers also.

1993 4.9
200HP@4100rpm
275ft-lbs@3000rpm

1993-05 NS
275HP@5600rpm
300ft-lbs@4000rpm
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300HP@6000rpm
300ft-lbs@4000rpm

The 4.9 is a standard two-valve pushrod engine. The NS is a four-valve OHC. The NS has higher peak torque and HP numbers, but they happen higher up in the revs. Displacement is a wash, as Cadillac was getting essentially the same 4.9 numbers out of the 4.5 in the Allante with tuned-port injection.

The 4.9 used throttle body injection or direct port on a cast manifold, the NS is essentially tuned port injected, with long runners.

4.9 used a single-coil electronic distributor, NS is fully electronic ignition with multiple coils.

4.9 was mated to the 4t60, NS always came on the 4t80. The 4t80 is a big part of handling that increased hp/torque on a heavy FWD car.

FWIW, I've heard that the 4.x series can be pushed to 300hp without much fuss, but the 4t60s couldn't handle the corresponding torque increase with acceptable longevity so it was never done.

I don't know about the NS, but the 4.x series of engines is an aluminum block with cast iron cylinder sleeves. So, the original 4.1 engine had larger sleeves installed with correspondingly larger pistons, and became the 4.5. Replacing the crank and rods on the 4.5 stroked it to 4.9.

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Re: Post joo car!
« Reply #39 on: July 04, 2008, 01:03:49 PM »

What you say about torque is true, however remember that torque is just a rotational force. In comparison to horse power, torque is just a number.
Horse power is an actual amount of energy as it links both torque (Force) with the RPM it provides that torque at.

I would actually say that using your little analogy from before, peek numbers sell cars, but total numbers wins races.
I.e. If you were to graph either torque or horse power, then you should look at the area under the line, not just the highest point on the line.

That said, I don't know massive amounts about engines, I'm just coming from a physics perspective.
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Re: Post joo car!
« Reply #40 on: July 04, 2008, 06:37:04 PM »

I'm just saying from what I know, because I'm an engine tech at the Cadillac dealer I work at.
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Re: Post joo car!
« Reply #41 on: July 04, 2008, 07:58:24 PM »

Whatever I've only got 130bhp which I can't use because of so many shitheads on the roads, still 52mpg is really good and its going to be driven into the ground costs absolutly nothing to maintain and if I crash it who cares there likes thousands of other mondeo's just like mine
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Re: Post joo car!
« Reply #42 on: July 10, 2008, 08:00:49 PM »

How did I know there are too many 14 year olds here to even see more than three car pictures?

My shitty Oldsmobile:



And after it got front ended in a hit and run by some asshole at my job's parking lot.



It may be 21 years old, but it only has 43 thousand miles on it, and the A/C comes out ice cold. The greatest thing about this car though is the seating room and the fact that my gauges are all digital.
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Re: Post joo car!
« Reply #43 on: July 11, 2008, 07:13:36 AM »

Woot another Oldsmobile driver.
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Re: Post joo car!
« Reply #44 on: July 11, 2008, 07:51:59 PM »

Didn't know lots of people on H.I.T. drive yank-tanks.
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